- Scritto da: pippo75

> per caso sai se si possono avere altri dettagli?

Se sai l'inglese prova a leggerti il blog di pogson:

Scusate l'OT ma ieri mi sono letto un po' di articoli riguardo LiMux, la distro linus usata nella grande migrazione da windows a linux, in particolare ho letto questo:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/limux-munich-l...

In pratica hanno superato il 50% delle installazioni promesse e con un costo di 400 euro a installazione.

Un blog interessante, ho perso il link, trovato:

http://mrpogson.com/2011/09/07/munich-migration-fr.../

parlava che solo per l'antivirus avevano risparmiato 50 euro all'anno, per un altro aspetto (CAS? cercate nei commenti) il costo era di 240 euro nel triennio e visto che il rinnovo delle macchine? licenze? è triennale si arriva a 400 euro solo per questi due elementi senza più margine per le licenze windows/office.

I commenti sono tanti e molto dettagliati, pare che siano fatti da gente che ci lavora o che ha dati di prima mano, Phenom è un troll ma ha il pregio di avere mosso la discussione.

Un aspetto che trova conferme è che in Rete si legge quasi sempre che Monaco ha fallito nel migrare a linux. Molto linkato è un blog su blogspot che è stato abbandonato ma che ha lo scopo di fare FUD sulla migrazione:

limuxwatch dot blogspot dot com

Ci sono poi personaggi che "lavorano" per il FUD su questo lavoro fatto a Monaco.

Comunque sia riporto alcuni dati interessanti su LiMux:

Some details:

    The major problem he encountered were some duplicated records in a database. These were eventually fixed.
    22 CMS (Content Management Systems) were rolled into one.
    Cost was not so much a priority as efficiency.
    300 applications had to be replaced.
    50 people did the migrating work.
    Only 10% of machines needed to keep that other OS as no simple replacement could be found for some applications on GNU/Linux.
    To date 6900 PCs have been migrated.
    By 2013 it is expected that 12000 of 15000 PCs will be GNU/Linux-only.
    Heavy use will be made of web-applications to facilitate future changes to the system.

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>>June 2010: “More than 3000″
>>February of 2011 more than 5000
>>In June of 2011 more than 6500

>>September 2011 6900
>>January 2012 9000

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una lunga risposta (con le affermazioni) di un certo oiaohm che pare informatissimo con dati e info che a me sono risultati molto interessanti:

http://mrpogson.com/2011/09/07/munich-migration-fr...

ch: “- Because it took so long, Munich had to buy new Windows and Office licenses anyway. (They started with PCs running Windows NT.)”

oiaohm: Incorrect information I don’t know where you got it. They did not buy anymore Office licenses. OpenOffice migration was underway at that stage. Result was the MS Office license displaced by OpenOffice was redeployed in combination with the extra windows licenses.

At the start not all there machines were running NT. Some were on windows 2000 and XP before the start of project test pilot in 2005.

Now the extra copies of windows aquired were not new.
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/01/02/munich... Good look at o my god. Yes expired support versions of Windows is what was aquired so staff did not need training. They never bought new licenses of Windows second hand yes. Zero extra copies of MS Office.

Reason for buying expired versions of Windows it was cheaper. If I was the IT in that place I would wanting migration to Linux as fast as able just to get rid of the secuirty risk of running all that old software.

Also read the date they aquired extra licenses. Remember the test pilot over run before that was caused by FUD interference. It was never expected for the migration to Linux to be fully under way by 2007. But it was expected to be a little more advanced if pilot had not been messed up it would have been.

ch: “- Only 90% of PCs can be migrated, so you wind up supporting two desktop OSes instead of one.”

oiaohm: Reality a Windows network almost never ends up 1 desktop OS end to end. Always ends up fragmented new machines mixed with old normally normally cause this. When you look at there windows network NT mixed with 2000 and XP was already very messy before the migration started.

Result of the process looks like it will be 90% dependability on 1 Linux OS forever more. Reason free upgrades to current on all the Linux desktops. 10 percent mixed windows versions. This is far cleaner.

Remember 2000 and NT did not have COA stickers but COA certificates. So they can keep on use those for ever more in virtual machines.

ch: “Just the additional €5.9m are ~ €400 per PC, more than MS licenses (Windows/Office/server CAL) would cost.”

ecc, ecc, ecc. aprite il link fornito perché il confronto è ancora molto lungo...:)

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In italiano c'è oneopensource:

http://www.oneopensource.it/30/03/2012/monaco-per-.../